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That was Now, This is Then Kindle Edition
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SOLDIERS OUT OF TIME
Then: First Lieutenant Sean Elliott and nine other mixed-service U.S. soldiers on a convoy in Afghanistan suddenly found them-selves and their MRAP vehicle thrown back to Earth’s Paleolithic Age. And they were not alone. Displaced Romans, Neolithic Europeans, and more showed up as well. Some would be allies. Some became deadly foes.
Now: Scientists from an almost unimaginably far future need the survivors’ advice and support to reconnoiter and ultimately recover other groups displaced in time. There's just one problem. Not all of those other groups want to be recovered or even understand where they are. Prehistory is an ugly place, fascinating to vis-it, but no place for a civilized person to live. But the future, gorgeous as it is, has a darker side that dampens the appeal. In the end, only inventiveness, grit, and a thirst for freedom from the fickle tides of time can keep Sean and the displaced Americans alive and on a path to finally find a place—and a time—to call home.
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About That Was Now, This Is Then:
“. . . a classic story of survival. They may not like each other, but must to depend upon each other. Williamson shows how they pull together to create a solid society. . . . outstanding entertainment. Each character is different and fully developed. Even those you may dislike seem worth caring about. . . . grabs readers from the beginning and keep them reading to the end.”—The Galveston County Daily News
About Michael Z. Williamson:
“A fast-paced, compulsive read . . . will appeal to fans of John Ringo, David Drake, Lois McMaster Bujold, and David Weber.”—Kliatt
“Williamson's military expertise is impressive.”—SFReviews
Michael Z. Williamson is retired military, having served twenty-five years in the U.S. Army and the U.S. Air Force. He was deployed for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Desert Fox. Williamson is a state-ranked competitive shooter in combat rifle and combat pistol. He has consulted on military matters, weapons, and disaster preparedness for Discovery Channel and Outdoor Channel productions, and is editor at large for SurvivalBlog, which has 300,000 weekly readers. In addition, Williamson tests and reviews firearms and gear for manufacturers. Williamson’s books set in his Freehold Universe include Freehold, The Weapon, The Rogue, Better to Beg Forgiveness . . ., Do Unto Others . . ., and When Diplomacy Fails . . .. He is also the author of time-travel novel A Long Time Until Now, as well as The Hero—the latter written in collaboration with New York Times best-selling author John Ringo. Williamson was born in England, raised in Liverpool and Toronto, Canada, and now resides in Indiana with his wife and children.
- LanguageEnglish
- Publication dateDecember 7, 2021
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- ASIN : B09M931ZJ1
- Publisher : Baen Books; 1st edition (December 7, 2021)
- Publication date : December 7, 2021
- Language : English
- File size : 1352 KB
- Simultaneous device usage : Unlimited
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- Screen Reader : Supported
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- Print length : 669 pages
- Lending : Enabled
- Best Sellers Rank: #53,578 in Kindle Store (See Top 100 in Kindle Store)
- #226 in Time Travel Science Fiction (Kindle Store)
- #228 in Time Travel Fiction
- #1,000 in Military Science Fiction (Kindle Store)
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About the author

Michael Z. Williamson is retired military, having served twenty-five years in the U.S. Army and the U.S. Air Force. He was deployed for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Desert Fox. Williamson is a state-ranked competitive shooter in combat rifle and combat pistol. He has consulted on military matters, weapons and disaster preparedness for Discovery Channel and Outdoor Channel productions and is Editor-at-Large for Survivalblog, with 300K weekly readers. In addition to these activities, Williamson tests and reviews firearms and gear for manufacturers. Williamson’s books set in his Freehold Universe include Freehold, Better to Beg Forgiveness, and Do Unto Others. His novel The Hero – written in collaboration with New York Times best-selling author John Ringo–has reached modern classic status. Williamson was born in England, raised in Liverpool and Toronto, Canada, and now resides in Indianapolis with his wife and children.
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Any author who writes fiction with history in it has to know real history, or the tale becomes undigestible. The only way to enjoy this story is to add several, big, heaped spoonfuls of alternate history.
Mr Williamsson has not done a lot of research on the Younger Dryas. Or doesn't care. He sets his story in the late Younger Dryas, which means around 11700 BP. We don't know what caused the YD, there are several theories. We have no idea what ended it. Before the YD, mean temperature were the same as now. During the YD, temperatures plunged right back to Ice Age mean. It took some centuries, very quick. The Younger Dryas ended in a few decades, mean temperatures rose as much as 10° Centigrade in a generation. The glaciers, which had partly melted before the YD, regrew very quick during the 1000 years or so that the YD lasted, and then melted again at a furious pace, so quickly that you would not have time to say global warming...
The people from the first book would have migrated to survive, and even their descendants by some magic could return to the same spot, they would not yet have done so.
This really spoils it for me. Why does Mr Williamsson do this? Because he needs them to speak almost the same language. There are at least three different groups of natives, who speak almost the same language, but are on very different levels of civilisation... Hopeless, we have to grasp at the straw of Alternate History.
There is some genetics, using scientific language, but it is made up, comic book stuff.
It is implied that the Younger Dryas tribes are the ones who populated the Americas, and "two other theories are proven wrong". Regardless of which theory one wants to believe, people reached the Americas long before the Younger Dryas. Embarrasing.
The Bykos, are "whirling *ssholes" as people agree at the end of the book, well, that's been my opinion from the start. They are completely paranoid about paradoxes, leaving a singel bullet casing, made of brass - which of course would fall apart in much less time than 11700 years - will ruin everything forever, and no-one is allowed to stay in the past, even if they want to...
We get a sort of, kind of, explaination at the end of the book. The surprising thing is that our heroes go along with this. They go along with a lot, which in my eyes make them *ssholes too....
There is a short recovery of an ill defined group that Mr Williamsson casually calls "Germans". The historical details are horrendous. The way they are treated is worse than horrendous. Maybe this started as a book of its own?
There is obviously a sequel. Our group agrees to go on more missions, #after# they have agreed that the Bykos are *s......
I might have a look at this sequel if it happens.
The plot is not bad. It is just the above details that are so unenjoyable.
Time travel experiments conducted by the Guardians have had unexpected side effects, sucking people from the past into the present, snatching people from the present into the ancient past, and who knows what effects have yet to be reported. Most who are taken seem to be isolated people, or groups of military troops in isolated areas. One Stone Age man found himself in the present with no way to understand what he was experiencing. There are additional American soldiers and contractors still in the past, and the goal is to bring them home, using the time travel features to bring them back more closely to the time they left so that their lives are less disturbed.
Everyone's lives are essentially science experiments when they are drawn into the time anomalies. The people from the future are using the military unit from the previous recovery to execute this one, as they are familiar with the era, adaptable, and have proven they can do it.
They must take care to not disrupt the present or the future, and the troops that are still in the past have been there five years in their time frame, long enough to establish relationships, start a family in one case, and some are experiencing mental issues. When you've been someplace for years and have no expectation of ever going home, your outlook changes.
The game of "What if?" is played very well here. Williamson is very qualified to write about military topics and equipment, plus the political implications of how the troops behaved in the past. Animals that were plentiful in ancient times are now extinct. The ecology and conservation crowd would go nuts if they knew the time travelers had been eating these animals. Pass the auroch, please, I want another slice.
And I do want another look at this alternate universe.
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Das Buch hat meine Neugier befriedigt, was nach "A Long Time until Now" passierte. Mehr leider nicht; ich war froh, als ich die letzte Seite zu Ende gelesen habe.
