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Olympos

Olympos

byDan Simmons
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Rick
5.0 out of 5 starsIt gets better!
Reviewed in the United States on October 28, 2020
This second text does improve on the earlier Ilium text or maybe one becomes more used to the absurd premise. It provides a very good introduction into Homer's Iliad for the many who have heard of this classic but have not read it. Like much of Simmons work, you do get an education in a classic. This time Homer. This text closes the story pretty well an is exhaustive in its detail. With that it does move the complex array of plots along at good pace avoiding some one the slowness of this first text. In terms of imagination this really is a force which blends Sci Fi with fantasy/myth and even includes a strong reference to Shakespeare notably The Tempest. It is a five star text well worth the effort of reading and I found it satisfying.
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Jeremy Walker
2.0 out of 5 starsA Very Disappointing Conclusion: Simmons Couldn't Deliver What He Promised in Illium
Reviewed in the United States on August 1, 2021
When you finish a good book ... like say, Fall of Hyperion, an *amazing* work by the same author ... it stays with you for days. In idle moments you find yourself thinking about the book and it's plot, and often discovering new details hidden under details when you do.

When you finish Olympos, you have the opposite: the book stays with you, but only because of all the things that make no sense, are never addressed, etc. Here's just a handful of major flaws, which I'll try to keep as spoiler-free as possible:

* a character has to rape another sleeping character ... for no damn reason, and it's never explained why; clearly Simmons just wanted to write a rape fantasy

* a major, major character (arguably "the main character") kills himself FOR NO DAMN REASON. Repeatedly, as he's killing himself, the author writes things like "there was no reason for him to do this, but he had to anyways" ... but he never gives any motivation whatsoever.

* another major character has the worst story arc ever: in the first book he grows and becomes a better person, towards the start of the second his mother (who he's very close to) get's killed, and then ... well, he too does some stuff that makes no sense, and then he's just written out of the book. Simmons spends two books building up this character, and then he just disappears with no meaningful story at all!

* the absolute worst part is the ending: after two books of setting up a large array of antagonists (a variety of gods and monsters) one character (not even a protagonist, just an "NPC") tells another character (who we just met at the end of Olympos) to tell a third character that "the big bad guy is coming" (a big bad guy who also has been barely even mentioned in either book) ... and that's it. All the bad guys run away, the story ends, and none of the actual "main characters" in the book had anything to do with it. Even the NPC *barely* had anything to do with it.

Ultimately, Simmons is a genius author, and the Hyperion Cantos cements that. But not every work of a genius is a work of genius, and Ilium writes about a million checks that Olympus can't cash. There's nothing more frustrating to me than reading nearly two thousand pages, and having the finish be "there was no point to anything" ... but that's what you get at the end of Illium/Olympus.

It just will *feel* like an amazing/genius Dan Simmons book as you read it; it won't be until you finish the saga that you realize the author had no idea where he was going, or how to properly finish the story he started.
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Jeremy Walker
2.0 out of 5 stars A Very Disappointing Conclusion: Simmons Couldn't Deliver What He Promised in Illium
Reviewed in the United States on August 1, 2021
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When you finish a good book ... like say, Fall of Hyperion, an *amazing* work by the same author ... it stays with you for days. In idle moments you find yourself thinking about the book and it's plot, and often discovering new details hidden under details when you do.

When you finish Olympos, you have the opposite: the book stays with you, but only because of all the things that make no sense, are never addressed, etc. Here's just a handful of major flaws, which I'll try to keep as spoiler-free as possible:

* a character has to rape another sleeping character ... for no damn reason, and it's never explained why; clearly Simmons just wanted to write a rape fantasy

* a major, major character (arguably "the main character") kills himself FOR NO DAMN REASON. Repeatedly, as he's killing himself, the author writes things like "there was no reason for him to do this, but he had to anyways" ... but he never gives any motivation whatsoever.

* another major character has the worst story arc ever: in the first book he grows and becomes a better person, towards the start of the second his mother (who he's very close to) get's killed, and then ... well, he too does some stuff that makes no sense, and then he's just written out of the book. Simmons spends two books building up this character, and then he just disappears with no meaningful story at all!

* the absolute worst part is the ending: after two books of setting up a large array of antagonists (a variety of gods and monsters) one character (not even a protagonist, just an "NPC") tells another character (who we just met at the end of Olympos) to tell a third character that "the big bad guy is coming" (a big bad guy who also has been barely even mentioned in either book) ... and that's it. All the bad guys run away, the story ends, and none of the actual "main characters" in the book had anything to do with it. Even the NPC *barely* had anything to do with it.

Ultimately, Simmons is a genius author, and the Hyperion Cantos cements that. But not every work of a genius is a work of genius, and Ilium writes about a million checks that Olympus can't cash. There's nothing more frustrating to me than reading nearly two thousand pages, and having the finish be "there was no point to anything" ... but that's what you get at the end of Illium/Olympus.

It just will *feel* like an amazing/genius Dan Simmons book as you read it; it won't be until you finish the saga that you realize the author had no idea where he was going, or how to properly finish the story he started.
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Just Erik
2.0 out of 5 stars An Incomplete, Yet Imaginitve Work
Reviewed in the United States on July 23, 2021
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This is a 2/5 in terms of a recommendation, but I would personally rate 3/5 because I enjoy reading Dan Simmons' books. At the pace the duology was keeping there needed to be a third book to properly flesh out some of the storylines. I still think it's worth reading if you made it through the first book, but you'll have to use your imagination if you want a proper and complete ending.

There are a number of storylines that are finished satisfactorily. The following characters and stories feel solid: Achilles (by far and away the most complete), Harman, Ada, and Daemon (despite the lack of a proper finale with Caliban).

The moravecs just seem to save the day everywhere they go. Truely a missed opportunity to not have had some showdown along with some select humans and moravecs fighting Setebos to the finish. Perhaps they could have thrown in some post-humans, brought back Nightenhelser and Patroclus to the mix... but no, they just kind of fade away.

The Setebos, Prospero, Cycorax, and Odysseus storylines either end abruptly or not at all. This is a shame because the first two are the underlying main antagonist and protaganist of the plot. There is no major finale, no final battle, no incredible confrontation. Cycorax feels haphazardly introduced and then simply vanishes, fulfilling nothing more than a minor obstacle. The Odysseus ending feels like it came out of nowhere and then he just vanishes as well. Sorry Helen. Likewise, Helen in this book feels like nothing more than a forgotten sidekick with no character development whatsoever.

Hockenberry, while playing a significant role in the book, comes across more like a "Random Adventures" story whose only real contribution was to QT a few people here and there. The post-human Gods just end up fading away in the story, fighting the Titans for the forseeable future. I guess it didn't matter in the end anyway how much they were QTing everywhere, despite the fact that the was the entire impetus for the moravecs to enter the fray. This book just ends so many plotlines abruptly or not at all it's disgusting.

There is no finale with Daemon and Caliban despite a good hundred pages of the book building it up. Ariel just kind of came and went not doing much more than simply being a taxi for the plotline. Moira likewise was there not doing much more than something of a narrative dump. There was a ton of potential for these two characters to offer something deeper than a plot contrivance. Oh well.

What this series needed was one more book. There was so much potential in situations that all come to an abrupt halt. The weak plotlines pale in comparison to the better ones. Those plotlines that are finished are incredible to read and espouse the imaginative prowess of the author. Those plotlines that are not finished are disappointing or just plain absent. Overall, perhaps the biggest mix bag of a book I've ever read.
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Matthew L. Evans
2.0 out of 5 stars Not a real continuation of an excellent first book
Reviewed in the United States on January 10, 2017
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After really enjoying Illium and looking forward to book 2, I was very let down by Olympos. The focus shifted away from the Trojan war and the more interesting question of "what are the Gods" to the Old Styles Struggles against Caliban's god, Setebos. New characters are introduced without much backstory (Seriously? the Sycorax/Odysseus story made no sense). While some questions are sort of answered (vaguely and almost always in an exposition dump by the Moravecs), I didn't find the story nearly as interesting. It feels like Simmons (who I generally enjoy) mashed two separate novels together, which just didn't lead to a coherent experience. There was little closure to the story (no showdown with Setebos or Caliban, the main villains of the piece) and it feels like Simmons was setting up a sequel, which never actually got written. In conclusion, if you were hoping for a continuation of the (excellent) first story, with more Trojan war shenanigans and fun with the pseudo Greek gods, you won't really get that in this volume. I was very disappointed.
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SB
2.0 out of 5 stars Like a hundred other reviewers...
Reviewed in the United States on February 8, 2010
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Others have already said it better, but I feel compelled to register my lack of stars for Olympos. When I started this book, I couldn't understand all the negative reviews. I thought, they must not know what they are talking about. But how right they are-- the last half of the book is completely by-the-numbers. Like another reviewer said, either Simmons got writer's block or the publisher told him to wrap it up, because the ending here not only lacked creativity and imagination, it lacked coherence, and completely dodged the point of the book! The entire Illium/Olympos story was based on setting up a huge list of complex questions, conflicts, and mysteries...those questions, rather than the flimsy characters, keep the reader turning page after page, anxious to see the entire scheme laid out by the end...

Unfortunately, that never happens. One minute the book seems to set up a gigantic final act in which all conflicts will play out and all questions get resolved...and a few pages later you are reading "and they all lived happily ever after!"

This book is a testament to squandered genius. The concept and set up were deliriously complicated and multi-faceted, incredibly rich with ideas both literary and scientific. That all gets abandoned for a cop-out ending that leaves the reader feeling cheated.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Enjoyed Ilium, but...
Reviewed in the United States on October 27, 2021
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So I came across Dan Simmons by pure chance and had never heard of him before, so I didn't really know what to expect when I started to read Ilium. I immediately started to enjoy it because of the quick pace and just being catapulted in to the story and figuring it out as you go. I really did enjoy Olympos in the beginning as well, however, as the story continues a good amount of the characters seem to just lose their purpose and just seem to complain. I found the ending to be the most frustrating part of this book. I won't spoil anything but good lord, SO MANY THINGS LEFT UNANSWERED. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate on movies, shows, or books ending with some cliffhangers but Simmons built such a cool, complicated, and curious universe and to have so much left unexplained just really stunk.
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B. Talbot
2.0 out of 5 stars A real disappointment
Reviewed in the United States on August 13, 2005
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I really enjoyed the first book (Illium). This book, while structurally similar (several stories going on in parallel), doesn't manage to be nearly as interesting, entertaining, or compelling. In this book, I found that the constant shifting from storyline to storyline kept me from getting too involved in any of the stories. And many of the characters are total cliches -- all the "higher powers" talk in unnecessary riddles, the evil creature feeds on pain, etc.

Although a lot of other reviewers complained about the author not tying up loose ends, the book is even worse when he DOES explain things. Most of the actions which really drive the plot (the actions of the gods especially, but also the actions of the post-humans and Prospero) make little to no sense. The reasons we are given for them acting are patently ridiculous. I don't think that the setting or "techology" of a sci-fi story needs to be believable, but the characters do. The main characters in this book are, but they end up being almost completely irrelevant to what happens in the book.

About half way through I had to force myself to keep reading. I was extremely annoyed when I was finished.
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A. Todd
2.0 out of 5 stars A let down...
Reviewed in the United States on November 10, 2005
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I'm a huge Simmons fan and the Hyperion series is one of my all-time favorite sci-fi collections. I loved Ilium and devoured the book in one weekend. I couldn't wait for the follow-up. In fact, I pre-ordered Olympos and the new H. Potter book at about the same time, and decided that Olympos was my next must-read book.

Then, it literally took me 4 months to read Olympos. I essentially had to force myself to keep reading. Ilium was ablaze with suspense and all the characters, from the gods to the moravecs (organic machines), leapt off the page they were so alive.

Spoiler Alerts: There are numerous story threads that are left hanging, others that simply dissipate. The build-up created in Ilium, where meta-intelligences (Prospero, Sycorax, Ariel, post-humans in the guise of the Greek Pantheon) are battling for their respective interests, is not resolved in Olympos. Other characters arrive, and their motives are never fully explored or explained. Prospero floats around being cryptic. Sycorax gives up a battle she has been waging for centuries to have sex with Odysseus. Ariel appears once, acts mysterious, and disappears. The post-human Greek gods just eventually go away.

In the first book, the fabric of the entire universe is in danger because the post-humans have abused quantum reality. Additionally, the quantum distortions have allowed evil beings from other dimensions to slip into our universe. In Olympos, the evil departs, with no explanation. Apparently, the quantum instability is also resolved, also without much explanation. Primary characters from the first book are ignored in the second.

Most frustrating, the pace of the second book is lethargic through 3/4 of the novel, and then the pace picks up at frenetic speed. At the point where the pace increases, is precisely where things just stop being explained. The moravecs, which, throughout Ilium, carry the literary heart and soul of mankind because mankind has forgotten them, become, in book two, cute/fuzzy jokesters who babysit children. In book one, they had their own society!

I'm not sure how this got past the editors, but narratively speaking, this is an inferior effort from Simmons, and especially in light of the first book, which blew me away. This book left me cold and flat, and by the end, I just didn't care what happened to anyone in the book. I was just happy I could finally move on to Harry Potter.
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Adman
2.0 out of 5 stars Unfortunately, not worth the wait
Reviewed in the United States on July 30, 2005
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Ilium was an exceptional novel in terms of pure imagination, speculative science and originality. There are not many writers around who would conceive and unfold that strange a universe. I actually re-read Ilium, the week before Olympos came to my mailbox (6 months pre-ordered) in order to prepare myself for the second course. Alas, Olympos is a letdown. I have the feeling that Dan Simmons actually put the book together in a haste, trying to meet a deadline and I wouldn't be surprised if he wrote the whole thing in less than 4 months. The power of the three separate storylines in Ilium is gone. Hockenberry has become a cartoon character QT-ing with no real purpose. The old style humans are caricatures and one comes to think that it would not be such a bad idea after all if the voynix turned them all to pulp. The Gods have become pathetic. And after 600 pages, no real questions are answered. In Ilium there was a tale that produced a plot. Here, unfortunately, the plot produces the tale. Still 2 stars, for the moravecs who remain an oasis in a solar system of boredom.
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DanG
2.0 out of 5 stars Not as good as his previous work
Reviewed in the United States on November 25, 2013
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After reading the four books in the Hyperion series, I really had high expectations for this one. I was disappointed. There's a lot left unexplained, and a lot left hanging. It was, by the end, a chore to read. I hope his next book is better.
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2.0 out of 5 stars An excessively long read that is entirely too full of itself
Reviewed in the United States on April 24, 2020
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I loved the Hyperion Cantos but was severely disappointed by the Ilium series. Excessively long, chock full of attempts to prove to be Homer’s biggest fan, and ends with a bland, by-the-numbers finish.
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