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byMary Midgley
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Kevin Currie-Knight
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4.0 out of 5 starsCovers Much Ground, but Lacks Detailed Analysis!
Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on January 25, 2004
Mary Midgley has written an important book that, in true Midgley fashioin, straddles the middle ground between deference to science and its efficacy, and a critical eye of some goings on in the scientific community.
This book is about 'mtyhs' and their importance in science. Unfortunately, 'myth' might not have been the best word to describe Midgley's enterprise. In this book, she is NOT, a.) saying that science is a myth (that it is not trute), b.) using 'myth' to mean 'fairy tale', or c.) going on a fashionable post-modern lit-crit 'exploration' exploring the history of mythology as it relates to science. YEEEECCHHH!
Mary Midgley is much too smart for that. Rather, 'the myths we live by' are those metaphysical concepts that bleed into science now and again, masquerading as part of testable science: concepts like the gene as selfish replicator, materialism that would reduce mind to matter, the AI view that humans are smart machines, etc. Not that these concepts can't be valueable at times, but concepts like these are philosophical assumptions, not not testable fact.
To give an example of Midgley's intent here, my favorite section is that on the bran/mind conundrum that scientists are itching to resolve by pretending the mind doesn't exist. Midgley (and this reviewer) both have confidence that the mind is caused by the brain and that dualism is not tenable. But here's the problem. "Explainling" the mind by neurons and synapses IGNORES the emprically obvious: I can see neurons in brains, but can't 'feel' them in my mind. The brain and mind 'feel' of different qualities, and any explanation of the former doesn't necessarilty 'explain' the latter.
Other theorists like Dennett, say that the first person is an 'illusion' put forth by our genes to aid survival. If so, then it is not an illusion anyone (including Dennett) can 'stand back from' long enough to check whether it IS ACTUALLY an illusion (as one pulls stick that looks bent out of the water to find a straight stick). Others like Blackmore posit memes - units of culture (whatever such units consist of) that infest our minds while we are just passive vessels, waiting for memes to duke it out and replicate. Midgley responds with the obvious: if we are asked to believe that, then isn't it WE who are asked to believe that, and doesn't that in turn create a dilemma? If we are asked to believe that we aren't willfully in control of our minds (but the memes are), then how is it that we could willfully believe that at all? All of this is attempts by scientists to push explanatory theories farther than they seem to be able to go. IF materialism works on a physical level, then we must force it to explain mind. Midgley's answer? The mind seems to resist phsysical explanation in that way. What explains one thing brilliantly, may be clumsey when applied to another.
That was just my favorite example; there are many more. The point she is trying to make is that while 'myhts' are essential to science (mtetaphysics can not truly be seperated from it), we must watch how we use it. In the tradition of William James, Midgley warns that the world is quite pluralistic in its qualities and we may just need a pluralistic approach to dealing with it. Grand unified theories? Don't be so sure. Universal acids? Probably not. Ultra-reductionism? No matter how much we can reduce, there will always be whole organisms that need explaining just as much.
The only complalints I have are these: first, as a long time Midgley fan, I feel that she is, in some ways, writing the same book over and over again. This tends to happen to philosophers that say really original or contreversial things, as thhey keep having to re-explain themselves. If you've not read Midgley before, or not much of her, I wouldn't worry about this. If you have, read it but you might end up skimming some sections.
The second complaint is simply that as this book is ony 170-some pages, and she covers so many areas (myths), she doesn't really go into any in as much detail as I wanted to see. Otherwise, no complaints.
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Craig Scott
3.0 out of 5 starsAdvocating a social contract with nature
Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on March 1, 2022
The book is a whole can be a little bit spotty but there are some sections which are extremely lucid and illuminating. As I said in the title it all heads towards a conclusion which is a call for some sort of change in our social contract with the totality of nature
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Kevin Currie-Knight
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Mary Midgley has written an important book that, in true Midgley fashioin, straddles the middle ground between deference to science and its efficacy, and a critical eye of some goings on in the scientific community.
This book is about 'mtyhs' and their importance in science. Unfortunately, 'myth' might not have been the best word to describe Midgley's enterprise. In this book, she is NOT, a.) saying that science is a myth (that it is not trute), b.) using 'myth' to mean 'fairy tale', or c.) going on a fashionable post-modern lit-crit 'exploration' exploring the history of mythology as it relates to science. YEEEECCHHH!
Mary Midgley is much too smart for that. Rather, 'the myths we live by' are those metaphysical concepts that bleed into science now and again, masquerading as part of testable science: concepts like the gene as selfish replicator, materialism that would reduce mind to matter, the AI view that humans are smart machines, etc. Not that these concepts can't be valueable at times, but concepts like these are philosophical assumptions, not not testable fact.
To give an example of Midgley's intent here, my favorite section is that on the bran/mind conundrum that scientists are itching to resolve by pretending the mind doesn't exist. Midgley (and this reviewer) both have confidence that the mind is caused by the brain and that dualism is not tenable. But here's the problem. "Explainling" the mind by neurons and synapses IGNORES the emprically obvious: I can see neurons in brains, but can't 'feel' them in my mind. The brain and mind 'feel' of different qualities, and any explanation of the former doesn't necessarilty 'explain' the latter.
Other theorists like Dennett, say that the first person is an 'illusion' put forth by our genes to aid survival. If so, then it is not an illusion anyone (including Dennett) can 'stand back from' long enough to check whether it IS ACTUALLY an illusion (as one pulls stick that looks bent out of the water to find a straight stick). Others like Blackmore posit memes - units of culture (whatever such units consist of) that infest our minds while we are just passive vessels, waiting for memes to duke it out and replicate. Midgley responds with the obvious: if we are asked to believe that, then isn't it WE who are asked to believe that, and doesn't that in turn create a dilemma? If we are asked to believe that we aren't willfully in control of our minds (but the memes are), then how is it that we could willfully believe that at all? All of this is attempts by scientists to push explanatory theories farther than they seem to be able to go. IF materialism works on a physical level, then we must force it to explain mind. Midgley's answer? The mind seems to resist phsysical explanation in that way. What explains one thing brilliantly, may be clumsey when applied to another.
That was just my favorite example; there are many more. The point she is trying to make is that while 'myhts' are essential to science (mtetaphysics can not truly be seperated from it), we must watch how we use it. In the tradition of William James, Midgley warns that the world is quite pluralistic in its qualities and we may just need a pluralistic approach to dealing with it. Grand unified theories? Don't be so sure. Universal acids? Probably not. Ultra-reductionism? No matter how much we can reduce, there will always be whole organisms that need explaining just as much.
The only complalints I have are these: first, as a long time Midgley fan, I feel that she is, in some ways, writing the same book over and over again. This tends to happen to philosophers that say really original or contreversial things, as thhey keep having to re-explain themselves. If you've not read Midgley before, or not much of her, I wouldn't worry about this. If you have, read it but you might end up skimming some sections.
The second complaint is simply that as this book is ony 170-some pages, and she covers so many areas (myths), she doesn't really go into any in as much detail as I wanted to see. Otherwise, no complaints.
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Dr. Richard G. Petty
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5.0 out of 5 stars Blinded by Science
Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on October 15, 2009
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A wise man once counseled me that whenever I wrote, spoke or teach, to always stick to what I know. For once someone drifts outside his or her own area of expertise, they are likely to start making fundamental mistakes.

Sage and obvious advice, but nonetheless advice that is often not followed by experts in one field who are then thought to be an expert on everything. One of the most misquoted and misattributed people in history may well be Albert Einstein. For more than a century his name has become synonymous with genius, so some have assumed that he would have wise things to say about everything from God to politics.

This book, although a few years old, deserves to be resurrected and remembered as one of the best examples of a professional philosopher taking on some of the worst excesses of "Popular science." If this book were to come out in a new edition I am sure that Mary would have a great deal of fun with all those people who claim that quantum mechanics is the explanation for everything from how to run a business to the behavior of stock markets. Sadly it is not, and some of the authors of such books have taken "surprising" short cuts.

Mary Midgley is known to be a combative philosopher and here she takes on those scientists who breezily tell us that their equations will help us to "Know the Mind of God." To which we have to pose the Emperor's New Cloth's question: "Who and when was it decided that meaning, purpose, good and evil, are all subject to the laws of the material universe? And secondly that they are to be found in a series of equations that will almost certainly be re-written in the future?"

The answer to the question, "How and when did this happen?" can probably be traced back to the 1930s, when a number of influential scientists at the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge embraced an extreme Marxist and Leninist position and advocated a mechanistic and deterministic science that would be able to provide the answers to absolutely everything. In effect they firmly believed in the idea of a scientific priesthood that would hold all the keys to the kingdom of truth. There are still many professional scientists who believe to this day that science as it is now will be able to provide all the answers to "Life, the universe and everything." And by using their positions of authority to promote the idea in popular books, they try to persuade us that current scientific models can answer any question and anything that cannot be explained - including data on parapsychology and unorthodox healing - is therefore "Woo."

Someone once said to me, "Science works, it has given us telephones, computers and airplanes." That is the crux of the problem, and it is a problem: it mixes up science and technology, and allows "scientism" to flourish - the notion that science has ultimate authority over all other interpretations of life and over all other fields of inquiry. And ultimately scientism would have us believe in a universe without value, meaning or purpose. Throughout the essays in this book, Midgley consistently points out that scientism has created a dangerous myth about how the universe operates, and that myth has informed everything from the way in which we treat the environment to the way in which we practice medicine.

Midgley writes that we must continue to develop new ways of thinking, and she points out that the development of ideas of ecology, ecosystems and Gaia are all examples of a welcome move away from the competitive nature of scientism to a more cooperative relationship with each other and with other life forms. In other words we have to understand that we have been mislead into believing a seriously flawed myth, and if we want to achieve lasting change in the world, we need to change those myths. Happily that process is already underway.

Highly recommended.

Richard G. Petty, MD, author of 
Healing, Meaning and Purpose: The Magical Power of the Emerging Laws of Life
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Tim Lukeman
5.0 out of 5 stars Fine introduction to the failings of "nothing buttery"
Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on October 4, 2018
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In a series of short & lucid chapters, Mary Midgley addresses many of the myths (in the sense of defining & guiding narratives) of scientism … not science itself, mind you, but the worldview that all of human experience & existence is explainable solely in materialistic, reductive terms. Or, in different words, that so many of the qualities that make us human are "nothing but" mechanical processes, and that that we have the power to control & remake everything, including ourselves, by manipulating those processes. Not only that, but that we should do so, and that in fact it's inevitable that we will. Never mind the damage done to the planet, to our fellow creatures (the countless other animals who are our kin) ... and perhaps to our very humanity.

One thought that struck me quite powerfully as I read was how little the believers in such a reductive, triumphalist worldview ever look at their own psychology, or of those like them. What is really driving many of them? They pride themselves on being so utterly rational, seeming not to realize that they're just as susceptible to the unconscious, irrational forces within the psyche as anyone else. Perhaps even more so, in that they often deny such influences so vehemently. "No, no, I'm being purely logical, it's as precise & clear as an equation."

This in turn leads me to consider the desire for transhumanism, for remaking human beings & eventually transferring mind to machines, to calling human beings machines & brains computers ... why are they so repulsed by the organic messiness & beauty of the body? By the fact that we are animals, just like all other animals? It's like a secular version of the Gnostic rejection of the flesh for rarified spirit!

Midgley takes a more holistic approach, refusing to reduce human existence to binary, either/or terms. She also poses some illuminating questions about things such as dignity, compassion, empathy, and how they're so often lost in the initially grand but ultimately sterile & desolate visions of scientism. She covers a great deal of philosophical ground, always in an accessible but never dumbed-down prose style; and if I've concentrated on one aspect her her wide-ranging book at the expense of others, that's only because it's what I reacted to most strongly myself. But there's plenty here to engage thoughtful readers on a variety of topics that weigh heavily but often invisibly on our lives.

Highly recommended to anyone who refuses to be "nothing but" according to the dogma of unlimited progress!
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The book is a whole can be a little bit spotty but there are some sections which are extremely lucid and illuminating. As I said in the title it all heads towards a conclusion which is a call for some sort of change in our social contract with the totality of nature
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I didn't actually realize this book was about environmentalism/ecologies until about halfway through. In the process of examining the fundamental premises and conceptual structures that underly our general attitudes towards the earth and animals, Midgley does a nice job exposing the legacy of Cartesian duality in Western philosophy and how that sets up a "disembodied" thinker that can somehow exist outside our ways of knowing, experiencing, and relating to the world. Ironically, this thinker without a body is usually implicitly gendered male. Though Midgley doesn't dig deep into her sources, this book is a very readable critique of Cartesian duality that can help develop more embodied approaches to philosophy and ethics. As a bonus, this will also give the reader a better sense of why there is so much conflict between science, religion, and different approaches to taking care of the environment and the world, primarily by identifying the different myths that structure these worldviews (and that includes science).
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Thought provoking book by a serious thinker. Its all over the map but those topics and examples used is what makes the book. There's something for everyone to ponder and reflect. .
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4.0 out of 5 stars Midgley does an exception job challenge the meta-narratives under our ...
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Midgley does an exception job challenging the meta-narratives underneath our grand narratives around our pursuit of knowledge and our use of science.
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Very timely meta-cultural thinking. Gets us past either/or thinking. Her experience-oriented way of doing philosophy is a refreshing step forward through all the sterile scientific reductionism and ahistoric thinking current in our culture.
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Totally refreshing, questioning, rightly, the very foundations of everything we tend to take for granted. It is not often that a writer compells one to rethink everyting, including thinking.
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Jan Höglund
4.0 out of 5 stars An elegant and thoughtful little book!
Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on April 22, 2018
This book is based on the view that our imaginative visions are central to our understanding of the world. They are necessary parts of our thinking.[1] The challenge is that our imaginative visions may mislead us if they are fired up by a particular set of ideals.[2]

Myths are are imaginative patterns, networks of powerful symbols, that suggest particular ways of interpreting the world.[3] In political thought they are at the heart of theories of human nature and the social contract; in economics in the pursuit of self interest; and in science the idea of human beings as machines. The machine imagery began to pervade our thought in the 17th century. We still often tend to see ourselves, and the the living world around us, mechanistically.[4]

The way we imagine the world determines what we think important in it, what we select for our attention. That is why we need to become aware of these symbols.[5] Mary Midgley starts by concentrating on myths which have come down to us from the Enlightenment.[6] The machine imagery became entrenched because the 17th century scientists were fascinated by clockwork automata. They hoped to extend this clockwork model to cover the whole of knowledge.[7] The great thinkers of the 17th century were obsessed by the ambition to drill all thought into a single formal system. Descartes, Spinoza, and Leibniz, tried to mend the mind/body gap by building abstract systems powered by their models of thought, logic, and mathematics.[8]

The trouble lies in the conviction that only one very simple way of thought is rational.[9] Mary Midgley points out that rationality doesn't require us to have all our knowledge tightly organized on the model of mathematics.[10] We welcome oversimple intellectual systems because they contrast with the practical complexity around us, and we do not criticize them when the particular short-cut that they offer suggest a world view that we like. They express visions that attracts us, and they obscure alternative possibilities.[11]

Mary Midgley emphasizes that conceptual mono-culture cannot work because, in almost all our thought, we are dealing with subject-matters that we need to consider from more than one aspect.[12] She reminds us that we always have a choice about the perspective from which we look, whether it is from the inside, as participants, or from some more distant perspective. And if so, which of many distant perspectives we will choose. We need to combine several perspectives, since they are not really alternatives, but complementary parts of a wider inquiry.[13] The trouble comes when we dogmatically universalize our own generalizations and promote them as laws of nature.[14]

All perception takes in only a fraction of what is given to it, and all thought narrows that fraction still further in trying to make sense of it.[15] The concepts that we need to use for everyday life are often in some ways blurred or ambivalent, because life itself is too complex for simple descriptions. The standards of clarity that we manage to impose in our well-lit scientific workplaces are designed to suit the preselected problems that we take in there with us, not the larger tangles from which those problems were abstracted.[16]

People habitually think that mechanistic explanations are more scientific than ones that use concepts more appropriate to living contexts.[17] Those who use the analogy with machines seem to be claiming that we have a similar understanding of plants and animals. Mary Midgley points out that it's perhaps a rather important difference that we didn't design those plants and animals.[18] She reminds us that obsession with a particular model drives out other necessary ways of thinking.[19] Changing the myth is a way to bring about serious change.[20] It's an elegant and thoughtful little book!

Notes:
[1] Mary Midgley, The Myths We Live By (Routledge, 2011, first published 2004), p.xii.
[2] Ibid., p.xiii.
[3] Ibid., p.1.
[4] Ibid..
[5] Ibid., p.3.
[6] Ibid., p.7.
[7] Ibid., p.27.
[8] Ibid., p.88.
[9] Ibid., p.31.
[10] Ibid., p.33.
[11] Ibid., p.44.
[12] Ibid., p.68.
[13] Ibid., p.107.
[14] Ibid., p.124.
[15] Ibid., p.40.
[16] Ibid., p.194.
[17] Ibid., p.196.
[18] Ibid., p.163.
[19] Ibid., p.171.
[20] Ibid., p.251.
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