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Dune: The Butlerian Jihad

Dune: The Butlerian Jihad

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S. DiPietro
5.0 out of 5 starsIgnore the hate...
Reviewed in the United States on February 11, 2021
I read all of Frank Herbert's Dune novels after over a decade of interest in the series. The COVID 19 quarantine allowed me the extra time to pick the books up. The universe is amazing and Frank Herbert was a superb writer with an exceptional imagination. His writing style was thought provoking and poetic.

I then started reading his son's (and Kevin J. Anderson's) work and I noticed a sharp difference. Their books are more straightforward and action packed. But when reading The Butlerian Jihad, I had a phenomenal time. They expanded on the Dune universe in a fun and intriguing way. People hate on them for not being Frank Herbert. So what? Stop being a snob! Once they are gone someone else will take over and have their own take (and so on). Just have fun and enjoy this universe!
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Erin
2.0 out of 5 starsNowhere Near Dune, Subpar on its own Merits
Reviewed in the United States on August 13, 2020
Dune, at the time of writing this, is my favorite book ever. So I decided to read the entire Dune series, using in-universe chronology. This is the earliest novel in the Dune timeline, only predated by the "Hunting Harkonnens" short story.

This prequel, supposedly based on the late Frank Herbert's notes, tells the story of the Butlerian Jihad, the ancient war against the thinking machines. Where Dune described this uprising as more of a philosophical movement, more about people rejecting automation and taking on their own burdens to achieve true freedom. This prequel depicts the jihad as a simple war between free humans and the evil machine empire ala Skynet. Kevin J Anderson is largely known for writing Star Wars books, so it's no wonder this story got boiled down to such a simple conflict.

This reflects an overall lack of depth in the book. This is not the philosophical and thematic work that Dune is, and is instead a work of simple "genre fiction." Not a fan of the term personally, but it brings to mind all the right associations to describe this book. But even if we can accept that The Butlerian Jihad is simply an escapist dime-novel, I would argue it is subpar on those merits as well.

The plot is glacially slow, even for such a light read, and disjointed. Unlike Dune, which focused on Paul Atreides and only occasionally jumped to other perspectives, Jihad is a sprawling narrative. We follow Xavier, Vorian, Erasmus, Serena, Selim, Nora, and more, and we're already at six POV characters! These characters are often separated by literal cosmic distances and you never see the neat interweaving of narratives that sort of format promises. Some of these characters never meet, and only two are present for the events at the climax. Which is less a climax, and more of a sequel bait. "We won the battle, now the war begins" type of ending. Just like Dune, chapters are short, so we barely spend time with them before moving elsewhere for long stretches. It makes it hard to connect.

Also, this book pulls the mistake many prequels do, which is over explaining how things from the original came to be. Holtzman shields, FTL, the beginnings of Spice trade, the origins of Wormriding, the Bene Gesserit, the Mentats. It's silly, and feels like box ticking. Instead of writing an interesting story, the book obsessively keeps saying "look! It's that thing from Dune!" Over and over.

The prose is simplistic and even on occasion clumsy and awkward but mostly functional. Honestly, a couple lines were straight up baffling and even unintentionally funny. The worst thing is easily the cymeks. These are immortal human brains in jars that pilot robot bodies to fight the humans. It's as silly as it sounds, and yes, they are literally brains in jars, canisters, whatever. Their dialogue is constantly talking about their superiority, and how they must crush the rebellious and puny humans. Far from the intelligent, scheming villains of Dune. Characters in general are one note and never do anything surprising or have interesting facets that are discovered. If you've read their first appearance, you already have a full understanding of them, there is no depth.

The book is a buildup to a battle which covers mere pages, only to end with a promise for the Butlerian Jihad in the next book. It's full of characters we don't care about going through the motions to set up the pieces for the story we actually care about. If you're looking for a fun sci-fi adventure, avoid this pondering, workmanlike product. I can only recommend this to absolutely hardcore Dune fans who must see everything in the franchise out of a kind of morbid curiosity like me. There are occasional moments of cool worldbuilding or sci-fi concepts, but these exist only due to the genius of Frank Herbert. This book has no soul.
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M.S. Brown
1.0 out of 5 stars Soo bad -- the Dune series is now trapped in sequel hell!
Reviewed in the United States on January 14, 2003
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Like many of the other reviewers, I'm so disgusted -- and above all, SAD -- after reading this book. For me, the only saving grace was that I checked it out from the library rather than buy it.
The Dune books have been a reoccurring part of my life for the last 15 years -- every year or two I go on a Dune jag and read them all, one after the other, a wonderful, excessive spice binge that never gets old. My wife thinks I'm so weird to do this, but in a way that I can't well explain, they are very integral to my way of thinking. Heck, they even make me dream up ideas for conserving water. But I digress.
The first 3 books herbert jr and anderson wrote were not bad -- not the polished gems of the original series, but also still clearly their progeny. But this new Butlerian Jihad book, such a bastardization...there's plenty of science fiction that's pure shlock, and that's ok, as Shel Silverstein would say, "after you've been having steak for a long time, beans beans taste fine"...but this is frank herbert, DUNE!!, we're talking about here and the boys should not have gone and produced such literay defication in our beloved Dune universe. Yes, I'm ranting, but that's how gross and without redeeming virtue Jihad is...I remember thinking during one particularly superficial section that this was just bad Dune parody.
I remember back when I learned that Brian Herbert would continue the Dune series after his father's death -- I was so glad because I wanted to know what happened next, I didn't want it to end...now after this most recent book, I'm hoping that they never decide to risk telling more of the "future" of Dune. That's one prescient vision I can do without.
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Bertinelli Massimo
1.0 out of 5 stars Don't waste your time with this book
Reviewed in the United States on February 25, 2020
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One star because I can't go any lower...it's possibly the worst book I ever tried to read...not a plot to speak of, characters bordering on ridiculous...I seriously regret the purchase
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Xymnslot
1.0 out of 5 stars If you loved Dune...
Reviewed in the United States on August 6, 2015
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...You'll probably hate this.

I love the Dune series. Frank Herbert was a genius and an exceptional writer, and if you haven't read the original Dune series you are doing yourself a disservice.

This book takes on the unenviable task of covering events that took place in the far distant past and are referenced throughout the Dune series, often vaguely, reverently, and with the sense that the events being discussed are legendary in their scope and significance.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, this book fails to convey any of the gravitas implied by the original work's references.

The story is hackneyed and bizarre, more like throwaway science fiction pulp than the thoughtful, intellectual themes in the original. The attempts to tie characters and events more firmly to the "future" of the original books feels contrived and too obvious. The antagonists of the story, super-intelligent machines, seem by turns both omnipotent and completely ineffectual, not to mention completely mercurial in their dispositions and actions. Major social themes, confronted so adroitly in the original series, are addressed carelessly here; for example, compare the intelligent evaluation of religious influence on human society in the original series to the issue of human slavery discussed in this book. In the former, we get a lengthy discourse and thought exercise on religion and the possibilities and sheer power behind such influences, exhibited in both dialogue and in the plot and events. In the latter, we are informed that human slavery is very very bad by a politician's immature daughter (who, by the way, is inexplicably afforded an opportunity to address their version of a galactic Congress on the subject). Predictably, bad people who are bad are the ones perpetuating the bad slavery, and we see that robots (also bad) enslave humans as well (despite the logical fallacy inherent to that practice). Ultimately we find that slavery is a bad thing done by bad people (and robots) and especially not by good guys. It's all very revelatory. I'm digressing into sarcasm here so I'll cut this short.

I recognize that any direct comparisons to the original series are likely to make a prequel pale in comparison even if they are well written, but the fact is, that's the danger of writing a prequel for someone else's work. You can't avoid the comparisons and if you can't acquit yourself well standing next to the original, you shouldn't be attempting it in the first place.

In summary, I reject this iteration of the origins of the Dune universe and its myriad characters and recommend that you do so as well.

p.s.

This review started at two stars and worked its way down to one by the time I finished writing.
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R. Ruiz
1.0 out of 5 stars er A1O58KEEMZQ0I3
Reviewed in the United States on July 29, 2003
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The writing itself was fine. The story and attention to detail was horrible. The book read like a 600 page introduction in which every piece of the action was totally predictable. There was not even a hint of the plot complexities usually associated with Frank Herbert's Dune books. The three prequels where masterpieces next to this book.
The only highlight of the whole thing is reading about the origins of what will be the Dune universe. ...
I thought the other three Dune novels by Brian Herbert and Anderson were pretty worthy prequels. "The Butlerian Jihad," by contrast, misses the mark completely. I rarely give only one star to a book that I have actually finished, but this one will be an exception. ...
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phil schwendenmann
1.0 out of 5 stars Used is no excuse for poor quality.
Reviewed in the United States on February 25, 2020
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The price was right but three of the CD's were scratched and the various chapters garbelded. The seller claimed the CD's were of good quality but two of the CD's were missing. I guess I didn't read the small print that states all of the working and present CDs are of good quality. I would return but it is not worth the time and the 30 mile round trip to some drop-off center.
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Patrick Shepherd
1.0 out of 5 stars A History That Shouldn't Have Been Recorded
Reviewed in the United States on November 22, 2002
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When the first installment of Dune appeared in Analog magazine way back in 1963, I was immediately captivated. I remained enthralled through all the succeeding seven installments, fascinated by the complex interplay of science, politics, religion, economics, ecology and their manipulation by all the various sharply realized characters. As the sequels came out over the years, I found some good, some not so good, but all, including the recent three 'prequels' written by the two authors of this book, at least deserving of existing in the same universe as the original work. Not so with this book.

The idea of this book is to bring to life that period in the history of man when machine intelligences ruled most of the human occupied worlds, a period referenced multiple times in the original book, and the supposed origin of both the Bene Geserit and Mentat schools as a reaction to such machine domination. Unfortunately, this book fails miserably at its chosen task for multiple reasons.

The first major problem with this book is the characterization. Everyone here is a paper-thin caricature of a human being, from Xavier Harkonnen to Vorian Atreides and everyone in-between. Most of these people are introduced with a short physical description, perhaps a couple sentences to describe their pasts, and are given 'tasks' that pretty much totally define what they are, from Xavier as a military commander to Tio Holtzman as the fading scientist. There is little or no growth of these characters, other than the totally predictable change of heart that Vorian goes through. Dialogue between these people is almost totally limited to the task at hand, with few if any things that would convince me that these were humans talking rather than machines.

Then there is the depiction of the machine intelligences Erasmus and the Omnius. Supposedly their great problem is that they can often be defeated by mere humans because they can neither understand nor predict human behavior. But they've had more than a thousand years in control to observe humans, and as one of the definitions of intelligence is the ability to learn from experience, I found this whole scenario impossible to believe. Some of the 'experiments' that Erasmus performs to help him understand human behavior I found both gross and pointless, coming across very much like the gratuitous violence of a bad movie attempting to hide its failings.

The story is told in very short chapters, shifting viewpoint character with each chapter. This technique can be effective, as A. E. van Vogt showed so many years ago with his massively re-complicated stories, but to make it work you need either very strong characters or a very complicated, non-obvious plot that can be built in layers, neither of which applies here.

The 'science' here is on par with the rest of this book. I thought lines like 'the ship threaded a narrow course through the asteroid belt' and spaceships performing U-turns went out with 1930's pulp science fiction. In fact, this whole book reads as if it was written specifically for a no-brainer Hollywood SF special effects spectacular, and to heck with anything approaching reality or literary depth.

This book doesn't deserve to have 'Dune' in the title.

--- Reviewed by Patrick Shepherd (hyperpat)
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Tom Hudson
1.0 out of 5 stars Poor Frank Herbert.. he would be ashamed.
Reviewed in the United States on September 2, 2015
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This book is the worst of all the dune installations I have read. I started this book because I wanted to learn more about the jihad against thinking machines. Now that I have finally taken the immense effort to finish the book (over 2 months because I lost interest completely) I wish I never spent the $10 on amazon and preserved the jihad in my own imagination. Good god. So bad. For those who appreciate the writing of Frank Herbert and the dune titles he managed to complete, do not waste your time on this title.
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Bob Cat
1.0 out of 5 stars This terrible book gave me brain-herpes
Reviewed in the United States on March 19, 2015
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Terrible. Plot and character development that you would associate with a 1950s comic book. I can hear Frank spinning in his grave.
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Leonardo Ladeira
1.0 out of 5 stars Almost a waste of time
Reviewed in the United States on October 1, 2014
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Read it only for completion of the fictional world. The book is poorly written, the plots are paper thin and the characters are shallow.
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cdm
1.0 out of 5 stars One Star
Reviewed in the United States on July 5, 2014
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Yawn
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