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The Valley of the Ravens

The Valley of the Ravens

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trancelucence
4.0 out of 5 starsGood introduction to the marvelous raven
Reviewed in the United States on October 17, 2015
Good intro to some natural raven behavior along with glimpses of very simple experiments with them, plus the Austrian scenery is beautiful. I thought it worth watching as an introduction to ravens but it doesn't begin to capture their personalities or intelligence. I've lived with crows, rehabilitated them for return to the wild, and also observed both crows and ravens in the wild and both species are AWARE, think, consider, have an incredible presence, individual personalities, etc. I had a large crow for some 10 years (not captive, my best pal) whom I taught to speak (meaningfully), and I wish I could tell you the ingenious ways he devised to communicate when he couldn't express himself in words. He'd point at things, for one thing. Smarter than chimpanzees (with whom I'd previously worked, doing sign language research). He was very affectionate, I'd raised him from a chick (happened to be there when an owl knocked him out of his nest).

The production has great respect for ravens, and I heartily agree that they (along with crows) are the most wonderful of creatures, some so wise/prescient it borders on the mystical, as expressed in the film. But it barely scratches the surface. I don't know about ravens, but crows are very devoted to kin and typically stay with their parents and help raise siblings for years, 5-7 as I remember, before they mate and rear their own young (and often remain with their parents and siblings for life, in an extended family group). I haven't read more about it yet but I'm betting the young ravens in the film were most likely visiting and then returning to their families. The film didn't go into much detail about their social organization and seemed to suggest they were permanent residents of the valley.

This is an odd documentary, in that perhaps it tries to cover too many bases, e.g. showing something of the lifestyles of the local residents and lots of details about the climate. I would've liked more info on ravens in general and the research being done on them. But the film is worth watching for the shots of ravens performing acrobatics simply for the sheer joy of flying alone- especially when done in tandem, almost touching, with mates. These shots perhaps best capture their spirit- astonishing. The only other bird I've personally seen do this (besides crows) are society finches. Recommended!
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ChrisSherrill
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3.0 out of 5 starsOkay
Reviewed in the United States on July 5, 2020
There are some great camera shots, reminders of the extreme beauty of the surroundings, but I do see the points of some reviewers who say that not enough was actually said about ravens and how they demonstrate their intelligence. And the narrator, IMO, was only fair.
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trancelucence
4.0 out of 5 stars Good introduction to the marvelous raven
Reviewed in the United States on October 17, 2015
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Good intro to some natural raven behavior along with glimpses of very simple experiments with them, plus the Austrian scenery is beautiful. I thought it worth watching as an introduction to ravens but it doesn't begin to capture their personalities or intelligence. I've lived with crows, rehabilitated them for return to the wild, and also observed both crows and ravens in the wild and both species are AWARE, think, consider, have an incredible presence, individual personalities, etc. I had a large crow for some 10 years (not captive, my best pal) whom I taught to speak (meaningfully), and I wish I could tell you the ingenious ways he devised to communicate when he couldn't express himself in words. He'd point at things, for one thing. Smarter than chimpanzees (with whom I'd previously worked, doing sign language research). He was very affectionate, I'd raised him from a chick (happened to be there when an owl knocked him out of his nest).

The production has great respect for ravens, and I heartily agree that they (along with crows) are the most wonderful of creatures, some so wise/prescient it borders on the mystical, as expressed in the film. But it barely scratches the surface. I don't know about ravens, but crows are very devoted to kin and typically stay with their parents and help raise siblings for years, 5-7 as I remember, before they mate and rear their own young (and often remain with their parents and siblings for life, in an extended family group). I haven't read more about it yet but I'm betting the young ravens in the film were most likely visiting and then returning to their families. The film didn't go into much detail about their social organization and seemed to suggest they were permanent residents of the valley.

This is an odd documentary, in that perhaps it tries to cover too many bases, e.g. showing something of the lifestyles of the local residents and lots of details about the climate. I would've liked more info on ravens in general and the research being done on them. But the film is worth watching for the shots of ravens performing acrobatics simply for the sheer joy of flying alone- especially when done in tandem, almost touching, with mates. These shots perhaps best capture their spirit- astonishing. The only other bird I've personally seen do this (besides crows) are society finches. Recommended!
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gubudu
5.0 out of 5 stars The Aim valley is magical and here is a rare chance to experience it.
Reviewed in the United States on May 25, 2019
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I liked everything about this show! The music,the narration,the exquisite photography were all poetic and informative.Albeit the stars of the show were the Ravens.
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5.0 out of 5 stars I thought I knew ravens
Reviewed in the United States on April 26, 2020
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This documentary has soothing music, humor, fantastic shots of ravens in nature, and loads of information. It's suitable for children, even though ravens are meat-eaters; they eat carrion, so there are no scenes of one animal killing another. I've been watching crows in my neighborhood and kind of thought ravens were pretty much larger crows. Now I know better.
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ChrisSherrill
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3.0 out of 5 stars Okay
Reviewed in the United States on July 5, 2020
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There are some great camera shots, reminders of the extreme beauty of the surroundings, but I do see the points of some reviewers who say that not enough was actually said about ravens and how they demonstrate their intelligence. And the narrator, IMO, was only fair.
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Bryan
5.0 out of 5 stars The beautiful Alm Valley...
Reviewed in the United States on February 1, 2021
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in Austria makes the perfect setting for this program about a population of juvenile ravens living within its borders.
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Lohengrin
4.0 out of 5 stars Great to look at!
Reviewed in the United States on January 19, 2020
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Focuses mostly on the interactions between ravens with other species and humans in a game park in Austria. Limited discussion regarding Ravens' unique intelligence. Some cutsie.
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Don Schumacher, Jr.
2.0 out of 5 stars this isn't one of the better ones. The series seems to jump around
Reviewed in the United States on January 14, 2015
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I've watched a lot of the ORF nature series videos on Amazon, this isn't one of the better ones. The series seems to jump around, sometimes having an episode cover so much stuff it doesn't seem to have time to do it all justice. Other times, like this one, a very narrow subject is chosen and there doesn't seem to be enough interesting stuff to fill the episode. While some of it is cool, there are long pauses throughout of Austrian music, or random landscapes, or other scenes not critical to the subject: really smart ravens. I think it would have been better if there was more shown about research into their intelligence.
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John M.
5.0 out of 5 stars Delightful.
Reviewed in the United States on January 21, 2020
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Delightful, very good narrator.
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Richard R.
3.0 out of 5 stars Didn't share what they must know about Ravens
Reviewed in the United States on June 24, 2017
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I've had a hard time finding documentaries on ravens, so this my chance . I've seen other shows about these beautiful birds and was hoping to learn more. But I was disappointed. Too much about community celebrations and the four seasons. There was great footage of the birds so they must know a lot more about them than they shared in the show.
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Gabe Jewell
5.0 out of 5 stars Nature documentary
Reviewed in the United States on December 31, 2017
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Very good
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