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Imperative (Starfire Book 7)

Imperative (Starfire Book 7)

bySteve White
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cathy
5.0 out of 5 starsGood read but it is a series, not a one off book.
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on October 4, 2016
Short answer: This is better Exodus and Extremis but if you aren't even passingly familiar with the whole Starfire series, you're going to be really lost and probably disappointed. The whole series covers almost 500 years.

Middle Answer: read In Death Ground at a minimum first. Then Imperative.

Long answer:
In 1977, Task Force Games published a little game of starship combat called Starfire, so small of a game that it came in a ziplock baggie. It was a huge hit. Fans and TFG kept adding to it and in the 1990s, David Weber of science fiction fame rewrote the rules AND made a truly wonderful scenario book called Stars at War, which reads like a novel (combining in depth narrative sections with scenarios) but you can actually play out the battles using the game system. This covered four different wars and the major races in the Starfire universe.
Next came Crusade the scenario book and Crusade the novel, so if you didn't play the game you could read about space battles the old fashioned way...in a book.
Then came In Death Ground and The Shiva Option, both novels, and the massive scenario book ISW-4 Arachnids.
Then there is the orphan novel called "Insurrection" which had just the novel and not a game treatment.
Then David Weber moves out of the picture and revised writing teams take over. This is where Exodus, Extremis, and Imperative slide into place as novels but no game treatment.

BaenBooks has reissued Crusade and In Death Ground as Stars at War One and Insurrection and Shiva Option as Stars at War 2. These are NOT the same Stars at War that David Weber wrote for Task Force Games back in the early 1990s.

The game system is now owned and supplied by Starfire Design Studios
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Jim M
3.0 out of 5 starsPossible spoilers
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on January 15, 2019
I really, really like the Starfire series, especially In Death Ground and Shiva Option. Exodus and Extremis were ok, still decent books.
Imperative unfortunately is simply silly. Spoilers ahead...

One of the main plot points is kinetic kills against numerous systems from generational ships from one source. The ships are allegedly moving at .6c to .8c. Ok, so far I can buy that. They align the ships and destroy them creating clouds of debris that continue at the same relatavistic speeds towards inhabited systems. Still ok so far although starting to get sketchy. The objects destroy planets and installations throughout the PSU. Ok, now we are into LotR fantasy and a complete disregard for basic physics.
The stars in the PSU, as stated many times, are hundreds of light years apart. The kinetic bombardment would have taken hundreds, if not thousands, of years to take place. Sublight objects starting from relatively close together, required by the storyline of fleets fleeing a supernova, would have a gap of 7 or 8 years just between Sol and Centauri, and they are close together. In the PSU three light years was considered incredibly close in an earlier story. The main characters would have been dead of old age generations before the bombardments destroyed the listed planets and locations. I don't mind suspending disbelief under certain circumstances but not when they are trying something like kinetic weapons.

The authors completely lost me at that point. I'm not even going to bother getting into the idea that an object weighing a few tons moving at .6c could destabilize a main sequence star while managing to pass entirely through it.

I wanted to like the book, and I'll read the next one, but I am very disappointed by the complete disregard for science in this one.
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cathy
5.0 out of 5 stars Good read but it is a series, not a one off book.
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on October 4, 2016
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Short answer: This is better Exodus and Extremis but if you aren't even passingly familiar with the whole Starfire series, you're going to be really lost and probably disappointed. The whole series covers almost 500 years.

Middle Answer: read In Death Ground at a minimum first. Then Imperative.

Long answer:
In 1977, Task Force Games published a little game of starship combat called Starfire, so small of a game that it came in a ziplock baggie. It was a huge hit. Fans and TFG kept adding to it and in the 1990s, David Weber of science fiction fame rewrote the rules AND made a truly wonderful scenario book called Stars at War, which reads like a novel (combining in depth narrative sections with scenarios) but you can actually play out the battles using the game system. This covered four different wars and the major races in the Starfire universe.
Next came Crusade the scenario book and Crusade the novel, so if you didn't play the game you could read about space battles the old fashioned way...in a book.
Then came In Death Ground and The Shiva Option, both novels, and the massive scenario book ISW-4 Arachnids.
Then there is the orphan novel called "Insurrection" which had just the novel and not a game treatment.
Then David Weber moves out of the picture and revised writing teams take over. This is where Exodus, Extremis, and Imperative slide into place as novels but no game treatment.

BaenBooks has reissued Crusade and In Death Ground as Stars at War One and Insurrection and Shiva Option as Stars at War 2. These are NOT the same Stars at War that David Weber wrote for Task Force Games back in the early 1990s.

The game system is now owned and supplied by Starfire Design Studios
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Jim M
3.0 out of 5 stars Possible spoilers
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on January 15, 2019
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I really, really like the Starfire series, especially In Death Ground and Shiva Option. Exodus and Extremis were ok, still decent books.
Imperative unfortunately is simply silly. Spoilers ahead...

One of the main plot points is kinetic kills against numerous systems from generational ships from one source. The ships are allegedly moving at .6c to .8c. Ok, so far I can buy that. They align the ships and destroy them creating clouds of debris that continue at the same relatavistic speeds towards inhabited systems. Still ok so far although starting to get sketchy. The objects destroy planets and installations throughout the PSU. Ok, now we are into LotR fantasy and a complete disregard for basic physics.
The stars in the PSU, as stated many times, are hundreds of light years apart. The kinetic bombardment would have taken hundreds, if not thousands, of years to take place. Sublight objects starting from relatively close together, required by the storyline of fleets fleeing a supernova, would have a gap of 7 or 8 years just between Sol and Centauri, and they are close together. In the PSU three light years was considered incredibly close in an earlier story. The main characters would have been dead of old age generations before the bombardments destroyed the listed planets and locations. I don't mind suspending disbelief under certain circumstances but not when they are trying something like kinetic weapons.

The authors completely lost me at that point. I'm not even going to bother getting into the idea that an object weighing a few tons moving at .6c could destabilize a main sequence star while managing to pass entirely through it.

I wanted to like the book, and I'll read the next one, but I am very disappointed by the complete disregard for science in this one.
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......lookylul
5.0 out of 5 stars one of the most tense Starfire books I have read...spoilers (kind of)
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on May 4, 2020
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I have played the game Starfire since 1982 and have read every book so far in the series. Starfire is famous for large (some would say gigantic) space battles and the never ending race for new weapons and tactics. And frankly....a lot of the Starfire novels are very predictable. Alien threat or civil war, big space battles and lots of straight up action with fighters, x-HAWKS and beams of all kinds. Now enter this book, part of the Exodus saga, we now have spies, subtle tactics and an old threat come back to life. This novel starts off slow but halfway through, I had to keep reading as I really felt the drama and agony of the protagonists. For the first time in my reading of Starfire novels, I felt like humans and allies could really lose and lose badly. Just starting the next book and look forward to the conclusion of this saga. If you like military sci-fi and action, you will not be disappointed. Great job guys! I hope we have a Wethermere on our side in real life.
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Michael S. Lawson
5.0 out of 5 stars Another Great Read In The Starfire Series!
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on April 10, 2016
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This is the 7th book in the Starfire series. The first 4 were written by David Weber and Steve White. The 5th was written by Steve White and Shirley Meier. The 6th and now the 7th were written by Steve White and Charles E Gannon. Despite the author changes this series has maintained a high quality of writing and the story line has remained true to the earlier books. Of course Steve White has co-authored all 7 books and he is an excellent author as well as being one of my favorite authors.
In this one the various human space empires as well as several of their alien allies come under attack from not one but two of their old enemies. This book is an excellent example of Military Science Fiction with good character development and great space battle scenes. The Arduansโ€™ who appeared from space in slower than light colony ships were defeated in a very bloody war and at great cost to the humans and their allies. A few of them however fled and awaited more of their colony ships to arrive to reignite hostilities. During their wait they discovered a hidden colony of "Bugs", a species that had attacked with genocidal intend against all the other sentient species. They had been though to have been totally destroyed but had been in hiding biding their time before attacking again. Now both the Arduansโ€™ and the "Bugs" are attacking on several fronts and things are looking bleak for the humans and their allies.
I highly recommend this book and this entire series to fans of Military Science Fiction and of Space Opera.
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Ronald
4.0 out of 5 stars Reincarnation question
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on December 15, 2019
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Like the books so far, even though the kinetic kill strengths seem to be way over powered. But as a plot device, I can dig it. My question is, regarding the core belief that Arduans reincarnate so never face a final death.. in all the books so far, has there ever actually been a single Arduan who HAS been reincarnated? Has there ever been an actual Arduan reincarnation in the HISTORY of the Arduans? Weโ€™re constantly hit over the head by their belief, but it doesnโ€™t seem any more real than what a typical Hindu would believe, and even Hindus arenโ€™t suicidal as a species. When I first started reading the Arduan arc, it came across as โ€œArduan goes in to battle, gets killed, incarnates back at the Fleet base, gets reequipped, heads back to the front.โ€ Which was an awesome concept, but it fell flat after a book or two.
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Steven Woodcock
4.0 out of 5 stars A Fine Addition to the Starfire Universe
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on October 1, 2016
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A fine addition to the Starfire universe.

I realized after I started this book that I'd missed what I presume was the previous one, and that probably helped mitigate what otherwise would probably have been a 5 star review. I like the book a lot though it seemed a bit like the enemy is a bit overwhelming; it seems difficult to see how they can be stopped at all, and the book ends on a cliffhanger that makes it obvious there's at least one more to come.

I'm a long time player of the boardgame (I remember when Volume Two added fighters!) so I've always been a fan of this line of books. Well recommended for any fan of Starfire in particularly and good military science fiction otherwise.
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Snaz
3.0 out of 5 stars Some problems
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on February 7, 2017
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Hmm, the set piece space combat, which really felt like it should be the reason for this book existing, was a bit off. Mostly it just involved throwing bigger and bigger forces at each other with the only surprises being the occasional unveiling of a new weapon.

It's okay space opera but I was really expecting something better out of this series.

That said, kinetic weapons are a large feature in this book and they appear to be all messed up. There is a case where a planetary population is wiped out by a "fist sized" piece of scrap hitting at 60% the speed of light. Given that we are not talking about antimatter, figuring out the kinetic energy involved is not difficult math. Assuming a 2.5 kg mass for the object, this isn't going to exceed 5.6 to the 16th joules, or about 15 megatons. Both the US and the USSR tested weapons considerably larger than this, repeatedly, above ground, and yet our civilization is still here (biggest problem was the radiation, which the kinetic weapon would not create). I realize this book isn't meant to be rocket science but . . . .

Finally, the book ended in mid story arc.
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Michael Perry
4.0 out of 5 stars Battle on
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on August 7, 2018
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As massive fleets engage and and a new alien commander deploys a terrifying strategy, the separate human fleets battle on to preserve humankind. In this story I started to question the size of each fleet, the resources that would be required to man the massive ships. Each story gets bigger ships, bigger fleets and bigger battles. Despite the increasing unlikelyhood of these encounters I'm still enjoying the battles both of machine and mind. I can't wait to start the next book.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Although the style is in keeping with the earlier books ...
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on June 30, 2016
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Although the style is in keeping with the earlier books (hopeless circumstances, fighting blind with your back against a wall, etc.), Steve White still manages to captivate the audience into yet another classic space drama. Having read all the predecessors in this series I was already looking for the magic bullet that will save humanity once again before I was half way through he book...the it ended.

Will have to read the sequel just to find out how we escaped this time.
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5.0 out of 5 stars their super weapon, and the humans former adversaries
Reviewed in the United States ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ on April 7, 2018
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Lots of action and with well thought out characters. I do think the authors may have written themselves into a corner. It's hard to see how the humans will prevail against the Kaituni, their super weapon, and the humans former adversaries, the bugs. However; these authors seem to be rather inventive and it will be interesting to see how they resolve the dilemma in the next installment.
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